Nanami leans against the desk and waits. He lets Geto have all the time he needs. It will come out without pushing and prodding. The question makes his heart sink. So Thirteen decided to spill the beans? That information cannot go back in the bottle.
"Yes," Nanami says, "That was about a year ago for me that you attacked the school."
He doesn't offer details about the parade of demons in two cities.
"And Satoru finished things." Which means whoever used him to capture Satoru was far more literal than he'd expected.
"I don't even know if talking to him after that conversation about the movie would make a difference now. He says he loves me, but I saw what happened between Amanai and the last time I talked to him." Geto exhales a breath, sinks to sit on the ground by the door. The couch is there, but he doesn't want it.
"I understand the choices I'm going to make and I don't entirely disagree with them."
However much of a conversation they had—and Nanami suspects it was not an all night/all day marathon of a conversation about feelings—there's always going to be more to talk about after people digest what they learn. It will take a great deal of time to work through everything.
"Can you tell me in your own words how you understand those choices and what you do and don't agree with them on?" Nanami asks. They can start there before they go back to Gojo. Well, Gojo will be a part of this too, but they can focus on Geto's choices and mindset.
He doesn't answer immediately, taking some time to organize his thoughts before walking him through what he'd seen, the way they'd all been isolated, his conversations with Haibara and Yuki and then his own thoughts. "I don't think genocide was the right path, but if I'd stayed... I don't think it would have ended well. I didn't have a choice but to leave.
And I don't know that I wouldn't have turned on that village either, although maybe not to the same degree. Those girls were innocent."
It is good to hear Geto doesn't support genocide. It's always good to hear that, but Nanami would have a very different conversation if it were something that needed sorting out. He's relieved it's not that. He too understands and can agree with some of the choices Geto made/will make. Genocide, however, was never part of that.
"I understand the need to leave," Nanami says kindly. "I left too." Around the same time, even. He came back, and perhaps it doesn't have to end the same way, even if Geto still leaves.
"What were the people in the village doing to the girls? I'm not familiar with that part." Because everyone there was dead, and Geto hadn't shared details back home, not in any record he saw.
His head is resting on his knees as he listens before answering. "They were locked in a cell, looked like they'd been beaten. They were going to kill them because they blamed them for the whole situation.
Even after that me took out the curse, they still wanted to kill those children." Geto repeats quietly, letting his eyes close.
Nanami grits his teeth. He hates people like that. Children are not to be murdered. He kneels before Geto, leaving him a little room but right there. "That's unacceptable," Nanami says. "No decent sorcerer would let them do that."
He wouldn't have, if he were there. Geto is powerful enough he didn't need to kill the villagers to extract the girls. That part was... his decision.
"I see why he made that choice. I wouldn't have stood by and let them hurt those girls either, but after Haibara and that conversation with Yuki, i think he felt there was no other way.
So he cut ties." In a very extreme way, but it wasn't entirely unwarranted. "And the conversation with Satoru, I understand that too. Satoru didn't even see anything was wrong until it was too late. I asked him if he'd have seen it if I'd stayed and kept going until I only saw one final way out." Geto pauses for a moment, lifts his head to look at Nanami.
"....And he said, well you didn't come to me and tell me. He apologized but..." A slight shrug, Suguru sounding defeated.
"I don't know if this is something that can be fixed, Nanami. I don't know what to tell him or do."
The other special grade travels the world and rarely is even in Japan. When did she find the time for a conversation with Geto? Why did she have that specific conversation and with Geto? Nanami honestly wishes he had seen this movie, so he could better understand. However, the focus of this conversation isn't him getting all the facts. It's about Geto, his feelings, and what to do in Folkmore.
"The first thing you can do is focus on yourself, your feelings, and how to handle those. Gojo has to handle some of it himself too and do his own work. If you both do work on your own, if you both are doing that, then you can also work together on who you are together."
He pauses and reaches out to squeeze Geto's shoulder. "Does that make sense to you?"
"I'm not sure he knows how to. I ended up calming him down and reassuring him when I wasn't even sure if I should be doing that. But he looked so broken over the things I said to him. Not that it makes them any less true." And he can't say he wouldn't have walked away himself at the point that other him had been pushed to.
"I don't know what I feel, anymore." It's quieter. "I'm not even upset over him being the one to end everything, though. I don't-" He breaks off, shakes his head.
"It's not as simple as I want to be with him anymore. He's so tied up in his own everything, I don't even feel like I know where to start."
"He may not, but that is not your problem to solve," Nanami says, "not while you're still working through all this yourself. Let me and other people help him with that." It's not a healthy sign that Geto reassured Gojo during the revelation of all this, during the conversation they had about it. It requires minimizing his own feelings and needs, putting those on hold for Gojo's. It's not healthy, and it only paves the way for a path they've already seen the ending of.
"You sound upset that he didn't notice anything was wrong with you, that he became defensive about not noticing anything was wrong, that he's so tied up in himself he doesn't pay attention to or act for your well being. Am I understanding that right?" Nanami tries to reword and summarize what Geto's saying, what he's feeling. It's... about the two of them, not just Geto's depression, but he'll work with what Geto gives him, what they can work on.
He's quiet for a moment before he just nods. "More or less. Watching that just made me realize some things and I actually told him I didn't like the person I was had become because of his actions. I know it was supposedly we were all busy time but it looked like he never even really tried to do anything but work." Which was understandable, but it still gave focus to how Gojo prioritzed things.
And it's not that he expected to be front and center either, but the way he'd taken on Yuki's words like a new lease on life said a lot as well. He'd been looking for a life line from anyone and that had been it.
"Talking to Yuki about changing things, it seemed to give that me a new purpose, something he could use to pull himself out of where he'd fallen to. The village was just ...his first step." And he didn't quite agree with that either, but in the state he'd been in and with the choice he'd made?
There was always a first step on any road.
"He wasn't wrong to walk away from Satoru after all of that. I can't say he was given the circumstances, but things are supposed to be different here."
"I will agree you need a new purpose, both that he needed one then and you need one now. In all the time you have been in Folkmore, you've devoted yourself to Gojo. You need something else," Nanami says. A pause. "Something that won't put you on a path to genocide."
Geto is in much the same situation here, unfortunately, as back home. Even if Gojo doesn't have curses to fight, he's going out and doing things... anything that doesn't make him reflect too hard on things, and Geto is his anchor. There for him but not pulled back together after what happened.
"Things are what you make of them here. It won't be different simply because you're in Folkmore. You both have to make them different." He frowns slightly. "So tell me, what do you want for yourself without mentioning Gojo? If you cannot say, are you open to finding something? A purpose?"
Nanami has a point. He's been anchoring himself using Satoru as much as
Satoru has been using him. And even if he had been somewhat aware of that
before the movie, the movie had opened his eyes completely and he could see
where he was going.
"I know. I just haven't had it in me to really do anything else. But I
can't let myself fall that far. I just don't really know what I'm supposed
to do here."
He's quiet for a moment before nodding. "I know there's options of doing
whatever you want but I don't even know where to start. Maybe finding a job
or something. I just need to get out of my own head. "
"Few people come to Folkmore with a strong sense of purpose of what to do once they're here. Everyone has to find it."
Nanami is an exception. He had a particular goal with coming here, and he's stuck with it. However, even his sense of purpose and direction has been shaken up. Haibara's arrival was wholly unexpected. A good thing, but unexpected. He never expects the good kind of surprises.
"A job, a hobby, anything can be the first step. It doesn't have to be your final purpose, but if it gives you a place to start. A way to get out of your head. That's good. How you want to do that is up to you, but I can provide guidance or even instructions if you would like them."
"A mix of interactive and solo activities," Nanami says, "Interactive because it forces you to make commitments to others and follow through on them. It has an accountability solo activities lack. Solo activities that require your concentration or you'll mess up. That'll get you away from your thoughts. Further, it doesn't rely on other people's availability, so you can always turn to them when you need them."
The specifics of which activities are less important. They can find ones to suit Geto.
"I'm training and doing cooking with you. I don't really have a lot of other things on my roster right now." And he knows he needs to do more but it's not really anything he's explored since before he came to Jujutsu High. He and Gojo went out to eat and stuff, hung out with Shoko, but outside of school related things and work, they hadn't really had a lot of outside focus.
"...Are there any sports teams in the city. Maybe something like that."
Nanami nods. That's nod a lot of activities. He's one to talk, but Nanami and Haibara are exploring Tides together and the many things to do there. He's been busy with everything going on with jujutsu sorcerers. Plus, his favorite activities back home don't require much going out to do things. Nanami can read books right here in the comfort of his own home. Still, he's not the one desperately in need of getting outside of his own head and outside of one relationship.
"Hmmm, I am not sure. Perhaps at the school. We could also see if anyone is interested in forming a sports club if there isn't."
This many people in Folkmore, someone else has to be interested in sport.
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"Yes," Nanami says, "That was about a year ago for me that you attacked the school."
He doesn't offer details about the parade of demons in two cities.
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"I don't even know if talking to him after that conversation about the movie would make a difference now. He says he loves me, but I saw what happened between Amanai and the last time I talked to him." Geto exhales a breath, sinks to sit on the ground by the door. The couch is there, but he doesn't want it.
"I understand the choices I'm going to make and I don't entirely disagree with them."
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"Can you tell me in your own words how you understand those choices and what you do and don't agree with them on?" Nanami asks. They can start there before they go back to Gojo. Well, Gojo will be a part of this too, but they can focus on Geto's choices and mindset.
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And I don't know that I wouldn't have turned on that village either, although maybe not to the same degree. Those girls were innocent."
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"I understand the need to leave," Nanami says kindly. "I left too." Around the same time, even. He came back, and perhaps it doesn't have to end the same way, even if Geto still leaves.
"What were the people in the village doing to the girls? I'm not familiar with that part." Because everyone there was dead, and Geto hadn't shared details back home, not in any record he saw.
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Even after that me took out the curse, they still wanted to kill those children." Geto repeats quietly, letting his eyes close.
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He wouldn't have, if he were there. Geto is powerful enough he didn't need to kill the villagers to extract the girls. That part was... his decision.
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So he cut ties." In a very extreme way, but it wasn't entirely unwarranted. "And the conversation with Satoru, I understand that too. Satoru didn't even see anything was wrong until it was too late. I asked him if he'd have seen it if I'd stayed and kept going until I only saw one final way out." Geto pauses for a moment, lifts his head to look at Nanami.
"....And he said, well you didn't come to me and tell me. He apologized but..." A slight shrug, Suguru sounding defeated.
"I don't know if this is something that can be fixed, Nanami. I don't know what to tell him or do."
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"The first thing you can do is focus on yourself, your feelings, and how to handle those. Gojo has to handle some of it himself too and do his own work. If you both do work on your own, if you both are doing that, then you can also work together on who you are together."
He pauses and reaches out to squeeze Geto's shoulder. "Does that make sense to you?"
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"I don't know what I feel, anymore." It's quieter. "I'm not even upset over him being the one to end everything, though. I don't-" He breaks off, shakes his head.
"It's not as simple as I want to be with him anymore. He's so tied up in his own everything, I don't even feel like I know where to start."
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"You sound upset that he didn't notice anything was wrong with you, that he became defensive about not noticing anything was wrong, that he's so tied up in himself he doesn't pay attention to or act for your well being. Am I understanding that right?" Nanami tries to reword and summarize what Geto's saying, what he's feeling. It's... about the two of them, not just Geto's depression, but he'll work with what Geto gives him, what they can work on.
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And it's not that he expected to be front and center either, but the way he'd taken on Yuki's words like a new lease on life said a lot as well. He'd been looking for a life line from anyone and that had been it.
"Talking to Yuki about changing things, it seemed to give that me a new purpose, something he could use to pull himself out of where he'd fallen to. The village was just ...his first step." And he didn't quite agree with that either, but in the state he'd been in and with the choice he'd made?
There was always a first step on any road.
"He wasn't wrong to walk away from Satoru after all of that. I can't say he was given the circumstances, but things are supposed to be different here."
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Geto is in much the same situation here, unfortunately, as back home. Even if Gojo doesn't have curses to fight, he's going out and doing things... anything that doesn't make him reflect too hard on things, and Geto is his anchor. There for him but not pulled back together after what happened.
"Things are what you make of them here. It won't be different simply because you're in Folkmore. You both have to make them different." He frowns slightly. "So tell me, what do you want for yourself without mentioning Gojo? If you cannot say, are you open to finding something? A purpose?"
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Nanami has a point. He's been anchoring himself using Satoru as much as Satoru has been using him. And even if he had been somewhat aware of that before the movie, the movie had opened his eyes completely and he could see where he was going.
"I know. I just haven't had it in me to really do anything else. But I can't let myself fall that far. I just don't really know what I'm supposed to do here."
He's quiet for a moment before nodding. "I know there's options of doing whatever you want but I don't even know where to start. Maybe finding a job or something. I just need to get out of my own head. "
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Nanami is an exception. He had a particular goal with coming here, and he's stuck with it. However, even his sense of purpose and direction has been shaken up. Haibara's arrival was wholly unexpected. A good thing, but unexpected. He never expects the good kind of surprises.
"A job, a hobby, anything can be the first step. It doesn't have to be your final purpose, but if it gives you a place to start. A way to get out of your head. That's good. How you want to do that is up to you, but I can provide guidance or even instructions if you would like them."
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The specifics of which activities are less important. They can find ones to suit Geto.
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"...Are there any sports teams in the city. Maybe something like that."
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"Hmmm, I am not sure. Perhaps at the school. We could also see if anyone is interested in forming a sports club if there isn't."
This many people in Folkmore, someone else has to be interested in sport.